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Fakewhale in Dialogue with Salvador Marino

We’ve been following Salvador Marino’s work for some time now, and what continues to strike us is how he turns the body into a battlefield where biology, technology, capitalism and power collide. From the robotic prostheses of Post-Organic Bauplan to the blood-extracting machines of Iron Stream (Acud gallery, 2026), his practice moves from biopolitics to necropolitics, exposing the hidden infrastructures that decide which bodies give life and which are consumed. In this interview we wanted to explore the intimate choreography between human bodies, fluids and machines, the erotic and violent entanglement of blood as resource, and what it means to create DIY technology that refuses the clean, hegemonic idea of progress.

DESBRIDAR (Performance) co-authorship Post—Organic Bauplan. Benta, Istanbul (TR), 2024
FASE DE CICATRIZACIÓN (Performance) co-authorship Post—Organic Bauplan. Zentralweschärei. Zürich (CH), 2022 Photo by Ricardo Caldas
Prosthesis Hautorial, co-authorship Post—Organic Bauplan. 2025. Photo: Felix Adler

Your practice often involves detaching from “human” identity through performance, wearing white contact lenses, facial antennae, or body extensions. What draws you to these states of sensory alteration and non-human existence?

 

I’m not satisfied with being human, a way that is structured by society. I don’t think we are born knowing how to be human. We learn it by mimicking existing social structures, behaviors, and manners. I would rather be something else. 

For me, becoming “non-human” is an alternative way to exist, explore, and interact with the audience beyond the social norms of being human. One of the fastest ways for me to do that is by changing my body through body extensions or sensory restrictions. These extensions and limitations completely change how I experience my body and how I can move. For example, when I wore white contact lenses, I could barely see anything except light. I had to follow the light, and I learned to use the facial antennae to sense objects in front of me while I was almost blind. In other works, the body extensions became almost like new organs or additional body parts that allowed me to touch and communicate with the audience in ways that my own body normally couldn’t.

Prosthesis B04, co-authorship Post—Organic Bauplan. 2025. Photo: Felix Adler
DESBRIDAR (Performance) co-authorship Post—Organic Bauplan. Benta, Istanbul (TR), 2024. Photo by Dirty Projector
DESBRIDAR (Performance) co-authorship Post—Organic Bauplan. Bike Jesus, Prague (CZ), 2025. Photo by Adriána Vancǒvá
DESBRIDAR (Performance) co-authorship Post—Organic Bauplan. Bike Jesus, Prague (CZ), 2025. Photo by Adriána Vancǒvá

I believe physical movement can reshape psychological experience—that the physical can change the psychological. When my body moves differently, my mind also enters a different state. During those performances, I can almost forget who I am. It’s like entering a new identity.

 

In works like Intermission and Wings of Icarus you use your own body as the central material, often pushing it to the edge of visibility or endurance. How do you think about the body as both tool and subject in your research?

 

I really think the body is the primary tool and the foundation of much of what I’m researching. It is the way we exist and how we interact with the material world. It’s the vehicle for life, or simply for being. The body is also a kind of found object. We live with it and spend every moment with it, so it feels very natural for me to become interested in it and let my practice grow from it.

What fascinates me is that the body is incredibly capable, but at the same time it has very real limits. A very ephemeral object. Those qualities constantly make me think about dualities: how something can be beautiful but also dangerous, powerful but also fragile. Those tensions have become a central way of thinking throughout my practice.

DESBRIDAR (Performance) co-authorship Post—Organic Bauplan. Bike Jesus, Prague (CZ), 2025. Photo by Anna-Marie Berdychová

Many of your sculptures and installations incorporate wire cages, resin, foam, LED, hair, or everyday luxury objects such as chandeliers, money, and eggs. How do you approach the transformation of these familiar materials into something that feels both seductive and unsettling?

 

It’s very interesting that you mentioned this because you’re not the first person to tell me that I somehow make these ordinary objects look sexier or more seductive. 

For me, the point isn’t to make the objects more seductive. It’s about bringing out the duality that already exists within them to depict moments where beauty and danger, intimacy and discomfort coexist. Light that illuminates yet lures like a bug trap; silver blades that gleam with both allure and threat; glass that offers visual transparency while functioning as a physical barrier; and foam that occupies volume while holding almost no weight. My role is simply to make them more visible.

DESBRIDAR (Performance) co-authorship Post—Organic Bauplan. Bike Jesus, Prague (CZ), 2025. Photo by Anna-Marie Berdychová

Themes of desire, power, and isolation appear repeatedly, often through objects that carry traces of the body such as hair in resin or scent released on the audience. How do these elements reflect your broader interest in the tension between intimacy and control?

It’s very interesting that you mentioned control and intimacy at the same time because that’s exactly what I’m interested in. More specifically, I’m interested in the relationship between highly efficient controlling structures and those dreamy things, fantasy, illusion, aura, intimacy, that somehow float in between or become attached to those systems. That was also one of the central ideas I was exploring in my Yale thesis.

The kind of intimacy I’m trying to illustrate is the intimacy of today, NOW. A kind of cold intimacy. We are constantly connected to one another, yet at the same time we remain so far apart. I think that’s a syndrome of the technological age we are living in.

At the same time, I’m dissatisfied with the way intimacy is usually represented in mainstream media. It’s so homogenized and stereotyped…I’m interested in creating new forms of intimacy. For example, in my performances, I explore how body extensions become new organs that allow me to touch the audience in unfamiliar ways.

IRON STREAM - ACUD Gallery (DE) 2026. Blood extraction performance by Gh0re.grl. Photo by Camila Pozner.
IRON STREAM - ACUD Gallery (DE) 2026. Blood Drawing Machine — 340 x 230 x 115 mm 3D-printed parts, CNC components, silicone tubes, custom PCB, stepper motor, syringe. Photo by Camila Pozner.
IRON STREAM - ACUD Gallery (DE) 2026. Photo by Luka Naujoks.

 Have you ever destroyed or set aside a work for a long time only to return to it much later? What is your relationship with pieces that are already completed and exhibited, especially as you move between performance and more permanent sculptural objects?

 

I don’t usually destroy my work, but I do sometimes recycle materials from previous pieces and let them become part of new ones. It feels less like destruction and more like evolution. It reminds me of Digimon, where one form evolves into another. Sometimes I think a work simply needs time to evolve, and the only thing I can do is wait. During that time, I continue making other work.

When I think about pieces that are already completed, I see them as solidified moments from different periods of my life. What drives them is the burning desire to express something, and once that desire has been fully expressed, it feels like that project has come to an end.

What continues is not the individual work but the question behind it. I’m still not finished asking the same question: what does it mean to be human today, and what other possibilities exist beyond the way we currently understand and perform being human? Those questions keep leading me from one work to the next. Each piece is an attempt to offer a temporary answer, or perhaps to ask the same question in a more precise way.

 

Your recent Yale-related works and thesis seem to engage with domestic or institutional spaces. How do these environments become sites for examining memory, absence, or the body’s relationship to technology and bureaucracy?

 

I’m very interested in urban space, and I think of it as a hierarchy of scales. The smallest spatial unit is our body, then comes domestic space, and then public space. For me, it’s a relationship between the micro and the macro. What fascinates me is how these different scales constantly echo one another.

 

In my work, I use intimate, lived experiences as miniatures of broader structures of desire and power. For example, in the installation and performance “Our Ephemeral Eternity. Our Love. Our Ordinary Battlefield,” I collage materials such as kitchenware, dish racks, glass grids, dish soap foam, animal hair, video, and the sound of a running dishwasher to collapse domestic and public spaces, including kitchens, bedrooms, airports, amusement parks, and offices, into a single environment. During the performance, I blow soap foam from dish detergent into glass structures and hand it to the audience. By using the domestic and the micro as miniatures of the macro, such as dish racks resembling small skyscrapers, I reveal the fragility embedded in everyday life.

IRON STREAM - ACUD Gallery (DE) 2026. Pneumatic Worm Controller — 390 x 190 x 110 mm 3D-printed parts, CNC components, silicone tubes, custom PCB. Photo by Luka Naujoks.
IRON STREAM - ACUD Gallery (DE) 2026. Blood Drawing Machine — 340 x 230 x 115 mm 3D-printed parts, CNC components, silicone tubes, custom PCB, stepper motor, syringe. Photo by Camila Pozner.

Looking at your overall practice, from early works like Green Water to the current MFA trajectory, what do you see as the most urgent question your art is trying to ask about the human body in today’s world?

 

How do our vulnerable bodies move through this highly capitalized world? How do we exist in the space between beauty and cruelty? Where can we position ourselves?

IRON STREAM - ACUD Gallery (DE) 2026. Worm — 66 x 66 x 700 mm. Silicone and 3D-printed resin. Photo by Luka Naujoks.

 

Your installations often function as “guides” or thresholds between inside and outside, visible and hidden. How do you envision the viewer’s role in these spaces of transition and ambiguity?

 

I imagine the viewer not only as someone who interprets the works, but also as someone who constantly adjusts their own position. Within my installations, the viewer enters the interior, yet never fully belongs to it. They look outward, yet are never completely separated from what they observe. I want the viewer to keep moving between the positions of observer and participant.

This is not simply a matter of participatory installation, but a question of gaze and Eye. To look at someone always presupposes a certain distance and a certain form of power. At the same time, however, we cannot stand outside the structure.

For this reason, my exhibitions lead the viewer to move repeatedly between intervention and observation. I hope viewers experience their own attitudes within contradictory and ambiguous situations. I hope some questions continue to arise as they move through the space.

 

Looking at your overall trajectory, what do you see as the most urgent role of sculpture today in making visible the tensions between construction and collapse?

 

In an age overflowing with structures, the present often makes itself appear inevitable and paralyzing. The most urgent role I must carry out is, in the end, to allow art to continue circulating within human memory,  transforming, fragmenting, and being reconstructed over and over time.  To make this possible, we must endure and continue to speak out.